Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/04/2002 03:20 PM House L&C

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HB 418-ELECTRONIC PROXY VOTING & NOTIFICATION                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 418, "An Act amending  the Alaska Corporations                                                               
Code  as it  relates to  delivery  of annual  reports, notice  of                                                               
shareholders' meetings,  proxy statements, and  other information                                                               
to shareholders, and providing for electronic proxy voting."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 050                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG moved  to  adopt CSHB  418, version  22-                                                               
LS13335\F,  Bannister, 3/4/02,  as the  working document.   There                                                               
being no objection, Version F was before the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  asked if the amendments  included in the                                                               
packet are included in Version F.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI  replied  yes.    Chair  Murkowski  related  her                                                               
understanding that the amendments  were suggested by the Division                                                               
Banking, Securities  & Corporations  (DBSC) of the  Department of                                                               
Community & Economic Development (DCED).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 072                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BUDD   SIMPSON,  Attorney,   Simpson,  Tillinghast,   Sorensen  &                                                               
Longenbaugh,  representing  Sealaska Corporation,  explained  how                                                               
the changes  were made.   Mr. Simpson  said "we" are  prepared to                                                               
accept   [Version  F].     However,   he   noted  the   following                                                               
typographical  errors.   In  Section  1, page  1,  line 7,  there                                                               
should  contain a  subparagraph  (a).   On page  4,  line 24,  he                                                               
suggested that  the list of  items that shouldn't be  sent should                                                               
include "a dividend payment".                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI  pointed  out  that  the  latter  suggestion  is                                                               
addressed  in later  sections.   She  clarified  that this  isn't                                                               
addressing the  issue of  no longer  forwarding dividends  in the                                                               
mail.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMPSON agreed.  He  directed attention to [subparagraph] (2)                                                               
at the  bottom of page [4],  which says that "during  a period of                                                               
at  least  12 months,  at  least  two  payments of  dividends  or                                                               
interest on securities".   He explained, "It needs  to refer back                                                               
to  that first  section is  all,  in order  to be  correct."   He                                                               
directed the  committee to  page 5, line  28, which  should read:                                                               
"in person; or".  The "or" was inadvertently left out, he noted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 135                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO posed  a situation  in which  two dividend                                                               
checks are returned  because the address is  "undeliverable."  He                                                               
asked what would happen in such a situation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SIMPSON informed  the  committee  that Sealaska  Corporation                                                               
maintains  an escrow  account for  funds that  are undeliverable.                                                               
If  a   shareholder  has   been  missing   for  some   time,  the                                                               
[corporation]  goes to  great lengths  to locate  the shareholder                                                               
and  has hired  an investigator.   However,  such lengths  aren't                                                               
taken when the shareholder has been  missing for only one year or                                                               
so.   He indicated a  dividend that remains uncollected  for many                                                               
years can escheat at some point.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAYES  inquired  as  to  whether  the  amendments                                                               
introduced today  would change the  fiscal note to zero  for both                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI  announced that was her  understanding.  However,                                                               
she said the division could address that.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 172                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  turned to page 4,  subsection (c), which                                                               
is   where  Mr.   Simpson   recommended  including   "dividends".                                                               
However,  he  pointed  out  that   page  5,  line  1,  refers  to                                                               
"dividends or  interest on securities,  or at least  two dividend                                                               
reinvestment  confirmations".   Representative Rokeberg  asked if                                                               
all the specific types of corporate  payouts have to be listed or                                                               
if there is a term of art that encompasses all those.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMPSON  said listing the entire  list would be safe,  but he                                                               
was hoping to use a more shorthand form.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI asked if payments  to shareholders or shareholder                                                               
payments would include dividends and interest on securities.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMPSON  suggested inserting the following  language on [page                                                               
4], line 24, after "send":   "a payment to shareholders or notice                                                               
thereof".   The aforementioned language would  cover the dividend                                                               
reinvestment confirmation.  Furthermore,  the term "payment" is a                                                               
broader term than "dividend".                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG related his  understanding, then, that it                                                               
would read as follows:  "A  corporation is not required to send a                                                               
payment to shareholders or notice thereof".                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI  noted  that she  was  inserting  Mr.  Simpson's                                                               
suggested language on [page 4], line 25, after "annual report".                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMPSON said that would be acceptable.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 218                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ROKEBERG   moved   that  the   committee   adopt                                                               
conceptual  Amendment  1, on  [page  4]  line 25,  after  "annual                                                               
report,"  to   insert  "a  payment  to   shareholders  or  notice                                                               
thereof".  There  being no objection, conceptual  Amendment 1 was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 231                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TERRY  ELDER,   Director,  Division  of  Banking,   Securities  &                                                               
Corporations,  Department of  Community  & Economic  Development,                                                               
expressed his happiness in the fact  that he and Mr. Simpson were                                                               
able  to  come  to  agreement  on a  number  of  amendments  that                                                               
addressed  [the division's]  concerns.   Therefore, the  division                                                               
has  submitted a  zero fiscal  note  for [Version  F].   Although                                                               
there will  be a cost due  to the adjustment of  the regulations,                                                               
the plan  is to do  it as part  of the regular  regulation review                                                               
process.  Mr.  Elder explained that the main item  that moved the                                                               
division to the  zero fiscal note and away  from the investigator                                                               
was the addition of the provision  [in Version F] that allows for                                                               
any  legal  proxy  to  be  treated   in  the  same  manner  if  a                                                               
corporation adopts  rules that provide for  the electronic voting                                                               
proxies.   [The division]  feels that goes  far in  ensuring that                                                               
there is  a level playing  field between corporation  proxies and                                                               
independent proxies.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  remarked that Representative  Halcro had                                                               
made a good point earlier.   Representative Rokeberg asked if the                                                               
statute includes  a provision regarding the  requirement relating                                                               
to nondelivered dividends or fiduciary instruments.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ELDER said  he would  have to  review Title  10 in  order to                                                               
determine whether that  matter is discussed elsewhere.   He noted                                                               
that his  only concern is  in regard  to whether this  section is                                                               
the  appropriate section  to include  that, because  this section                                                               
[AS  10.06.411]   speaks  to  the  delivery   of  information  to                                                               
shareholders.    He added,  "If  you're  comfortable doing  that,                                                               
fine,  but   there  may  be   some  other  section   that's  more                                                               
appropriate  and  [Legislative  Legal  Services],  in  fact,  may                                                               
recommend  a different  one."   However, he  said, he  understood                                                               
[Mr.  Simpson's] point  that if  dividends and  interest payments                                                               
are sent  out and are returned,  there is no point  in continuing                                                               
to  send those  out.   Mr. Elder  said he  was guessing  that the                                                               
corporations  would be  required to  maintain those  holdings for                                                               
the benefit  of the  shareholder, although  there may  a specific                                                               
time  period  in  which  the  money would  be  considered  to  be                                                               
"legally dead."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG inquired  as  to  the current  provision                                                               
under  the   property  law  regarding   the  banks'   ability  to                                                               
distribute funds  to the  state if  there is  no claimant  to the                                                               
money.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ELDER answered  that although  he recalled  the time  period                                                               
that the  money had  to be held  to be quite  a while,  he wasn't                                                               
sure of the specific time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  said he  didn't mind having  it as  a de                                                               
facto provision.  However, a  specific statutory dictate has been                                                               
created  in  regard to  the  action  of  a corporation,  but  the                                                               
corporation hasn't been  told what to do if those  items can't be                                                               
delivered.    Therefore, he  indicated  his  liking of  [Sealaska                                                               
Corporation's policy] to hold the  funds with interest until such                                                               
time that the individual can be found.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ELDER commented  that he  would be  surprised if  that isn't                                                               
already required, but said he'd have to review it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 309                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HALCRO   informed   the  committee   that   some                                                               
cooperatives  such as  Chugach Electric  that send  out dividends                                                               
which are  returned place  a list  of the  names relating  to the                                                               
returned dividends  in the newspaper.   He surmised that  is done                                                               
because it satisfies some public-notice  provision for state law,                                                               
and that a corporation in  the same situation would operate under                                                               
the same rules.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ELDER agreed  and recalled that a number  of newsletters from                                                               
various   Alaska    Native   Claims   Settlement    Act   (ANCSA)                                                               
corporations, which  go out  to all  the shareholders,  include a                                                               
similar type of notice.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI pointed out that  the statutes pertaining to real                                                               
property say  that after seven  years from the date  of judgment,                                                               
the [property] can escheat to  the state.  Chair Murkowski agreed                                                               
to have staff check into this matter.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 349                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  moved to adopt conceptual  Amendment 2, on                                                               
page 5,  line 28, after "person;",  to insert "or".   There being                                                               
no objection, conceptual Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI announced  that the  lack of  subsection (a)  in                                                               
Section  1 is  a drafting  issue  that the  drafters can  address                                                               
[without an amendment].                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAYES  moved  to  report CSHB  418  [version  22-                                                               
LS13335\F, Bannister,  3/4/02, as amended] out  of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
note.  There  being no objection, CSHB 418(L&C) was  moved out of                                                               
the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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